Tips and tricks for Fantasmic

(Article last updated: August 17, 2017)

Hollywood Studios' nighttime show is called Fantasmic! and it's well worth your time to see, but it can be tricky to make sure you see it without long waits.

Today I have tips and tricks to help you avoid long lines, get the best seats and make an easy exit from the show.

What it's like

The 26-minute show features lots of Disney characters, projections on water screens, boats, fireworks, water effects and great music. It's a fantastic visual treat, though some little ones may find some of the darker scenes to be scary.

You can see the whole show in the video below, including the Glow with the Show ears which you can purchase (they light up as a choreographed part of the production).

The show is presented in a huge outdoor theater that seats 11,000 people, but during busy times of the year, people are often lined up an hour or more beforehand to get in. I don't wait an hour for anything and don't suggest you do either, so I have some tips on avoiding that plus ways to get better seats.

Fantasmic Dinner Package

My favorite way to avoid the lines and get great seats is by booking a Fantasmic Dinner Package (FDP). This basically means that you book a package to eat in 1 of the restaurants at Hollywood Studios and at your meal, you're given a voucher to sit in your own reserved section during the show (the exact seats aren't reserved, just the section).

The seats are right in the middle and the best sections available. On nights where two Fantasmic shows are scheduled, the FDP is only offered during the first show.

One thing I love about the FDP is that it doesn't cost you anymore than eating in the restaurant itself if you're on the Disney Dining Plan.

Here's the rundown of the FDP restaurant options.

  • Hollywood Brown Derby
    • Available for lunch or dinner
    • Package includes an entree, dessert, drink and seating voucher
    • $62.99 for adults; $21.99 for children
    • Costs 2 Table Service credits on the Disney Dining Plan
  • Mama Melroseโ€™s Ristorante Italiano
    • Available for lunch or dinner
    • Package includes an entree, dessert, drink and seating voucher
    • $44.99 for adults; $17.99 for children
    • Costs 1 Table Service credit on the Disney Dining Plan
  • Hollywood & Vine
    • Available for dinner
    • Package includes an all-you-can-eat buffet and seating voucher. Minnie and pals are at dinner.
    • $53.99 for adults; $32.99 for children
    • Costs 1 Table Service credit on the Disney Dining Plan

So what's the catch?
You might wonder why everyone wouldn't just book the FDP but there is at least 1 downside: the meal times can be weird. Like eat-dinner-at-3:00 weird. If you're OK with eating at off-peak times, this will be a good option for you.

One more possible downside: the show gets canceled due to weather (rain = too slippery for the performers) and sometimes due to technical difficulties. In the event of a cancellation, you won't be issued a new pass for another night or be given a refund. (Note: some people have had success stopping by guest relations and being issued a voucher to return on a different night. Park admission would be required to do that and it's not something that you're guaranteed to get.)

How to book the Fantasmic Dinner Package
The FDP is available 180 days beforehand, just like dining reservations, but it's important that you book the package itself and not a normal dining reservation.

If you're booking online, you should do that at https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/dining/hollywood-studios/fantasmic-dining-package/.

People booking by phone will still use the same number (407-WDW-DINE) but you need to specify the package rather than just the restaurant name.

What if you already have a dining reservation at 1 of the restaurants? Sorry, this package is totally separate so you'll have to book a new FDP reservation and cancel your previous dining reservation.

Fantasmic! Dessert & VIP Viewing Experience

Unlike the Dessert parties for Illuminations, Happily Ever After, and Star Wars: A Galactic Spectacular, this experience is a lot more low-key. Instead of attending an actual "party", upon arrival to the theater guests that book the Fantasmic Dessert & VIP Viewing Experience receive a box of Fantasmic themed snacks which will feature both savory and sweet items, a bottle of water and a specialty alcoholic or non-alcoholic beverage in a light-up keepsake cup.

In addition to the snacks and light-up cup, guests will also receive a special light-up credential that will be their pass into the reserved "VIP" seating area for the show.

The cost for this experience is $39 for adults and $19 for kids and it can be booked online.

FastPass+ for Fantasmic

If the Fantasmic Dinner Package doesn't appeal to you, you could always try to get a FastPass+ reservation to see the show. I don't recommend it as 1 of your first 3 FastPass+ reservations, but once your first 3 FP+ reservations have been used or expire, you could use the My Disney Experience app or head to a kiosk and look for a 4th FastPass+ reservation that could be used at the show.

Often times there's still availability, even late into the day.

The seating for FastPass+ isn't as good as for the FDP, but you will get an assigned section (to the left of the FDP seating area) and get to avoid waiting in long standby lines.

About the show schedule

The times when the show is offered vary throughout the year, so here's a couple of thoughts on that:

  • The show is often scheduled after the official park closing time. The closing time is really just the time that you need to be in line for an attraction. The park will still be open after that to allow you to take pics, shop, and see Fantasmic.
  • During busier times of year, two shows might be offered. The second one will always be much less crowded but the Fantasmic Dinner Package is only available at the first show.
  • For less busy times, Fantasmic may not be scheduled nightly so check the schedule for your trip dates to make sure it's an option
  • During the winter months, the show is often scheduled pretty early (around 6 or 7), making it much easier to see it for people who can't stay up late

Where to sit

Once in the theater, I would choose seats that are as close to the middle section as possible and at least half way back. Sitting further back will allow you to see the whole show more easily and avoid getting wet (which happens to many people sitting in the first couple of rows). However, people sitting closer to the front can snap better pics of the boats as they float by.

Eating at your seat

Since the theater is outdoors, you can bring food in to eat while you sit.

Making a graceful exit

When you enter the Fantasmic seating area, you'll enter via the upper left. However, if your goal after the show is to exit the park or watch fireworks, I'd suggest exiting to the upper right. That will take you right to the front of the park and allow you to exit easily or give you a great spot to watch fireworks.

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Nicole

We have the FDP and are planning on see the Star Wars fire works right after the show. We will be there November 12th (the last day for the fireworks). Where would you suggest standing for the fireworks? And how should we get there from Fantasmic?

Colleen

We have booked the FDP and are eating at Mama Melrose. We are also on the dining plan. Reading the menu it says that an appetizer is included. I have heard from other sources that the dessert is a sampler and that you can not actually choose a dessert. Is this the case?

Ashley

The last time I had a FDP at Mama Melrose was 2015. At that time, you chose a separate dessert. It was not a sampler.

Sherry

What are the typical nights for the Fantasmic show during the fall? Planning a trip for a friend, and trying to figure out what night to plan for them to be at HS, so they can see the show. I know this is speculation on your part, but thought you might have historic records to look back at.

I was curious does Fantasmic ever get too crowded that people don’t get in? I’m going on Sunday January 8th and I noticed there was no fast pass available for that any longer. I’m pregnant so don’t care too much how I use my fast passes. Thank you.

Kelly

I tried booking the dinner package but it appears I would also need park passes for the day we do the dinner/show package, is that correct?

Is there anyway to see this show without buying tickets to this particular park? (We are only going to it up 2 parks and I wasn’t planning on the park hopper passes)

Kristin

Hi Shannon!

We just followed your map and it was just a path to the bottom of the theatre. Maybe they close off a part that would make it connect to another path? The cast member who was down there told us there is only one exit from Fantasmic. Maybe they only open it in the summer?

Karen Skinkis

What are you hearing about crowds when Fantasmic and Star wars fireworks are showing at basically the same time? Is Fantasmic less busy as people are choosing the new fireworks show?

Kim

How is the show during the day?

Tracey

We’ve booked the fantasmic package at Hollywood and Vine for early December and we have a 12:20pm reservation. Does this mean we’ll see the Disney junior characters while there for lunch? Thanks!

Melissa

So if I book this as a lunch so that my kids can see the characters, we will receive passes for access to these specific seats? I was under the impression this is just a dinner option.

Wendy

We are going to Disneyworld Jan 18-25, 2017. I was able to book 5:00 pm dinner reservations for Brown Derby on Sunday Jan 22, and can see that Fantasmic is at 7:00 pm that night. But I’m unable to book the dinner package. Is this normal? Will the dinner package become available later? Thank you for your input.

Crystal

You have to book the dinner package, not just dinner reservations. That won’t work.

Pam

Hi, We are scheduled for Hollywood Studios on Saturday, September 17, 2016. The calendar is showing Fantasmic at 8:00 p.m. and Star Wars: A Galactic Spectacular at 8:15 p.m. I would like to see both, but if they are shown around the same time, it seems unlikely. Is this common?

Erin

Hi, I booked the Fantasmic show at the Hollywood and Vine and my confirmation is leading me to believe that I need a meal plan to eat here. Is that the case? Thanks.

Lynda Ashton

I’m looking at booking the Minnie Mouse Fantasmic package at Hollywood and Vine once my 180 window comes up in a few weeks. The price is $53.99 each. But I notice the price to book the Minnie character meal at Hollywood and Vine with no Fantasmic package is $46.99.
Am I right in thinking, therefore, I’m being charged $7 a person just to have the reserved seat, or is there any difference in the food / dining experience that justifies the increased price? There’s 6 of us, so it feels like we’d pay an extra $42 just for a Fastpass, effectively.
Is this right?

Ben

Yes, that is correct. The same is true at Tusker House for the Jungle Book Package.

Thia

When I looked at WDW dining website for H&V dinner the price shows $59.99 NOT $53.99 and the price does NOT change when adding the Fantasmic Package. Also, I would recommend getting the dinner package it beats standing in long lines just to grab a seat and there is no way I’d waste a FP for it.

Tammy

Hi Shannon,

We have a bit of an issue. We are going to WDW over Christmas week and have a Minnie HV Fantasmic package booked for 5:45pm – but they just added another show that night at 7pm (when we booked, there was just the one show at 8:30pm). What happens to us now? We won’t have time to eat and get over there by 7pm…

Heidi

We had the same issue. I called Disney and talked with a manager. He issued us a fast pass good for the later show. He also offered to contact Hollywood and Vine, if we wanted to eat earlier and attend the first show.

Kasima

We booked a Fantasmic Dining Package for lunch on Dec 6th expecting the 830pm Fantasmic show. Now that they’ve added a new Fantasmic at 7pm does that mean our voucher would now be for the 7pm show and not the original 830pm?

Tim C.

We booked the Famtasmic Dinner Package at Momma Melrose’s for the 8:30 show on 12/6. My question is that the show starts at 8:30 but the park closes at 8:00. We are not staying on site, so we can’t take advantage of the EMH, but are still good for the show right?

Lindsey

How early should we arrive to Fantasmic? We’ll be dining at H&V with Minnie at 4:45 and the show is set to start at 7. I was hoping to squeeze in a ride between but I’ve read some people saying we should arrive an hour early. I have a 2 and 4 year old and I’m worried they won’t be patient during such a long wait.

Eileen

LOVE your site and would like your advice. We have Fantasmic dinner package reserved seats for Dec 30. Planning our exit, does it make sense to leave our 2 strollers at a location on the way out of the park rather than right outside the theater with all of the other strollers? If yes, where do you suggest we leave them? Thank you for your help.

becky

Do you know when the dinner package will be open for March? You can book through February, but there is no March availability up yet.

Thanks!!

abbey deppen

Hi ๐Ÿ™‚ so if you book the dinner are you guaranteed a spot at the show?

Kay

Hi. I have a question about Fantasmic and dinner reservations. My family is going in October and the Fantasmic viewing is at 730p. I have Cape May dinner reservations at 855p. Do you think this is doable? How long does it take to exit the theater and get to Beach Club? Thanks!

going next year in sept to Disney califlornia. do you know the restaurant for the color show? is it ok for toddlers? also one member has had a wt reduction surgery can get a childs portion and still get the dinner plan for fantastic thanks for a great web site

Sherri

I have been trying to make Fantasmic dining reservations for Mama Melrose on January 18th, no luck. Tried at 6am yesterday (Exactly 180 days), and again at midnight for the 19th. Sometimes it give tells me no tables are available, sometimes it tells me there was a error searching and to try again later. Called the Disney reservation line, they told me the same thing, there was no tables available and to try again later. I also tried Hollywood and vine, and Brown Derby, got the same results for all three. I checked through October and it found tables, but as soon as you start looking into November no tables for any of them. I’m wondering if the system is glitchy and not offering tables the full 180 days in advance like it says they do.

Heather Teubert

This is because Disney Resort Guests can make reservations earlier than non resort guests. BUT..if you check the day of your visit there may be cancellations. We have had the same problem. Good Luck!

Sumer Edwards

I was having the same issue trying to get a reservation for our trip in December. There was nothing available at 6am 180 days out. I was a little bummed, but made some reservations elsewhere just in case I was unable to snag Mama Melrose reservations eventually. Finally today the date we needed showed up! It was almost like the guest book wasn’t opened until now for some reason. I’ve heard several other people have had similar issues. Just keep trying! ๐Ÿ™‚

Stephanie Slocum

Hi , we have ADR for Si-Fi at 7:50 in Sept ( two shows that night one at 8 and another at 9:30) do you think we will have enough time to eat and get to the second show? ( not planning to get apps or desserts as we will be paying out of pocket )

Sydney

I know i hate feeling rushed so if you could get a earlier reservation that would be better but you could be fine. But again Disney can get very busy at anytime

Carrie

I’m interested in booking the Hollywood & Vine Fantasmic Dinner package but want confirmation that it will be a character dining experience as well. I found mixed information on different sites. Do you know?

Cat

Only breakfast and lunch are character dining experiences at H&V, but you can book lunch with the Fantasmic package.

Tammy

We’re still trying for Mama Melrose Fantasmic dining package as well (for Dec 20) – it seems as though all Fantasmic packages are sold out for the whole week and a half we are there (12/19-12/30) at all three restaurants. Craziness! Got 2 BOG and a CRT reservation – but no Mama Melrose! Did Disney mention what kind of issues they are having with these reservations, or when they might be fixed? I even signed-up for the WDW Table-finder, but I’m terrified I’m going to miss the notification (or I already did miss it!)

Shannon, we’ve booked our dining reservations from Dec. 19-29 on June 22 at 6:am. We love Mamรก Melrose Ristorante, but they aren’t able to reserve anything there throughout our stay. Is there a way you can find out for us if there’s any other way we can reserve a lunch or dinner there?

Sumer Edwards

We are also going in December and the date we needed finally opened today! ๐Ÿ™‚

Is there a way to find out when they become available rather than calling to check everyday? โ˜บ

Does it cost anything to subscribe? โ˜บ

Melissa

I see that H&V has lunch options now too. Is that character dining + Fantasmic?

tracey

I have made my reservations for all of my dining except for one that includes the FDR at Mama Melrose on Dec.11. Do they open available tables for a specified length in advance? I can book all the way up to Dec.10 with No problem. Any day. But not Dec 11. My only conclusion is that they haven’t opened reservations past Dec.10 yet. Has anyone else had this issue? Hope this makes sense.

tracey

Seems they do for all restaurants except Mama Melrose. Just one of those I will have to check on daily.

megan

I am having issues with booking mama Melrose for fantsmic during me week stay in December 15-22. Does not matter what day (even the 22-which I cannot believe is booked out already) or time there are no reservations available.

I am having issue with Liberty Tree Tavern too, same thing, no matter what time or day nothing is available and this is for lunch. They are doing reservations that are set to complete by Nov. 20, but I cannot book after that.

I think something is wrong in the system with those two restaurants for December ADR’s

Amy

Hi there – has anyone tried The Brown Derby as part of the Fantasmic dinner package? Yummy? Not so much? We are going to be there the 5th-8th of December, with the 6th being our DHS day. We really wanted to try 50’s Prime Time and the Sci-Fi, but if it is better to do the dinner package to see the show, then I guess we will do that ๐Ÿ™ – unless it’s not a busy time of year and we can snag good seats regardless?

Abigail

Hello! I was wondering if we have the deluxe dining plan, will we still get an appetizer at mama melroses as part of the FDP? Thank you, your site has been so helpful!

Sumer Edwards

I was wondering the same thing. Any luck with an answer?

Henry Lutz

Hi
Going nov 12-21….do we still need to be in line an hour early for fantasmic

Henry Lutz

Hi
We are going nov 12-21
Should we still arrive an hour early that time of year
Thanks for a great site

Troy

This is a great website – lots of information without having to read blogs that seem longer than War & Peace! We are planning our first WDW trip having done DL and DCA several times. At DL we always arrive at the 2nd fantasmic show right after fireworks (usually arriving 10-15 minutes before show time). We watch the show and about 1 minute before it ends – walk right onto pirates (then walk on splash, mansion, WTP, etc in the area) I assume in WDW we will watch and leave – or maybe try for TOT which is nearby. They just started fastpasses for fantasmic in DL – and I have never found a need for one or to arrive way early (at least for the second show) but in my experience the fastpasses for shows are on a separate system. For example we grab a fastpass for world of color and then can immediately get one for radiator springs because rides and shows are on different systems. I guess this is not the case for fastpass +? I only ask because for shows, a fastpass is not really any faster – it just reserves you a spot.

Shannon

Hi! Thanks for all your wonderful information! How early do you have to show up prior to Fantasmic if you have a Fastpass? Thanks!

Mark

My confirmation for Hollywood and vine lunch says “no disney dining plans accepted”… Is this true?

Jewel

Back in Feb I booked the FDR for Hollywood & Vine at 4:40 and it said that the DDP was accepted with 1 TS credit. Tonight I made a new ADR for 1:30 PM so we could eat with the characters and now it says “Select dining plans NOT accepted”

I hope this is still a DDP deal. :/ May call tomorrow and find out.

Gina A

Jewel – if you do can you confirm on this comment thread? I’m curious what they say! ๐Ÿ™‚

Jewel

So, I went back to my previous FDP reservation confirmation email that I made on 2/3/15 for the 4:40 dinner at H&V. It said that the DDP was accepted.
I am really kicking myself for cancelling that reservation before I made the new one!

I saw on the Disney site that it said the FDP was available for lunch & dinner, so I thought it would be okay to book the lunch. When I confirmed online it said “Select Dining Plans not accepted.” But when I got the confirm email it says that H&V doesn’t participate in dining plans.
I tried to call the 407-W-DINE # last night but there was a wait so I emailed guest services instead.
I’ll update when I get a response. I hope it’s an error!

Gina A

Thanks so much Jewel! ๐Ÿ™‚

Jewel

I made another H&V FDP reservation for 4:30 PM and it says that dining plans ARE accepted….

I did just call and speak to someone at the dining #.
She repeatedly assured me that H&V for FDP was 1 TS credit per person for dinner and lunch starting at 11:00 AM. She didn’t know why it would say otherwise, but told me several times that she 100% guaranteed that my dining plan would be accepted. I asked if she could give me give me an email confirming this, and she said no, but mentioned she has been working there for many years and knows it to be true. I asked her if she could let someone know that it’s coming up like this so it could be looked into and she said she was typing that up as we spoke.
I also mentioned to her that in parentheses next to my 1:30 reservation it says (Special) and she said that doesn’t matter, all dining plans except quick service are accepted. That’s all I found out. I’m going to keep both reservations for right now until I’m certain they’ll take the DDP for lunch.

Gina A

I am also experiencing this and I would like it cleared up ASAP. If I can’t use the dining plan I will have to switch reservations and I want to do so before nothing is left!

AliB

I’ve booked the Fantasmic Dinner Package for our family of 5 but we’re not big eaters. Judging by the comments, the meals are more than we would be able to handle. Is it possible to still pay for all 5 but split 3 of the meals and have the other 2 unused meals packed to go? I don’t see the point of over-eating just to get my money’s worth.

Morgan

I just booked the Fantasmic Dining Package for lunch at Hollywood and Vine but I’m not sure I did it right. I have a family of 5 but 2 of them are under 3 yrs old. Should I reduce my reservation to 3 so I don’t have to pay 19.99 for them?

Caitlyn Tyler

Love this article!! What about if there are extra magic hours that day? We are going this October and it says there are 2 PM extra magic hours that day. Do these start once Fantasmic is over?

Jennifer

Hi Shannon,
Your podcast and site and Pinterest and FB are SO INCREDIBLY FANTASMIC (had to throw that in there since this is a Fantasmic question).
Seriously–your podcast and site have virtually planned my trip for me. Thank you!
My question is about Mama Melrose dining (4:20 res) and Fantasmic first showing. Assuming dinner only takes an hour or so or two at the most…we would be done by 6:20 with hours until the show. I assume you can still roam the park and tour before seating for Fantasmic, right? I can’t imagine sitting in the theater waiting for hours. Am I crazy to ask that? Just wondering whether we’ll be captive or free between dinner and the show! Thanks.

Angela

I am not on the DDP. We will be paying out of pocket. I want to make sure I understand the package. The package is a flat rate fee of $37.99 per adult and $12.99 per adult at Mama’s. Is that correct? If so, then it appears that it would be cheaper for me to just schedule a regular reservation and pay menu prices and try to catch good seats or get a fast past for the show. We don’t normally order desert. Even if we did, looking at the menus at WDW.com it appears that our meal would be less than $30 for myself, DD-14, and DS-13 and less than $11 for DS-9 including tax. Or am I able to book the ADR and just pay menu prices?

Melissa

If you are already wanting to eat a character meal at Hollywood and Vine can you combine that meal with the Fantasmic package? I am under the assumption that the characters are at lunch and not dinner, is that correct? Thanks!

Brianna

According to Disney website, the Hollywood & Vine Fantasmic package is only available for dinner. I too tried to do the same thing. Unfortunately it’s not possible.

Erin

Oh COOL!!! So I can book the lunch at H&V and SEE DOC MCSTUFFINS and get the Fantasmic seating voucher!!! That is awesome!! We were going to book the character breakfast (because Doc is HIGH HIGH HIGH on our priority list for our October 2015 trip), but I will do the lunch instead now! Thanks for the intel!! ๐Ÿ™‚

Susan

My husband is an amputee and has a scooter for the week. Can I still do Fast Pass, or is there a special section for scooters?

diane laveglia

If it is raining and the Fantasmic show is the abbreviated version, DO NOT GO! We sat in rain and the show was music with no characters. What a waste of time. Ask the CM at the entrance if the planned show is the abbreviated one.

kelly hughes

Absolutely loved this show I followed all your tips for our 1st Oct visit and nailed ADR atMama Melroseโ€™s Ristorante Italiano The food was delicious and it was loads of fun for my 7 year old daughter and we just built into our day an early dinner at 4.30,
Seating was fantastic and I would recommend everyone to do this

Christy

Could you use another FP after your initial 3 are gone to FP it or would they all be gone? We only have quick service meal plan ๐Ÿ™

Destini

Totally excited landed a dinner time of 6pm for my Fantasmic Dining [email protected] Hollywood & Vine 60 days before Spring Break yes its definitely possible to get a great dinner time ppl!!!

Hema Gandhi

When I called about the Fantasmic package, they said it will require 2 DDP credits. Just wanted to let you know.

Destini

When I booked my reservation it was 1 credit try doing it online

Catherine

It should only be 1 credit for Mama Melrose and Hollywood & Vine, 2 credits for Brown Derby.

Lauren

I would highly recommend the Fantasmic dinner package to anyone visiting DHS. Like any other dining reservation, try to book this early in order to snag a good time – we were able to get a 4:30 reservation at Mama Melrose’s when they were only taking them up to 5:00pm.

We were in WDW from late August to early September, and our first day at DHA was the only day of our 10-day trip where the rain was unbearable – the skies just ripped open and we found ourselves trudging through ankle-deep puddles while. We were already running a few minutes late, and once you added in the rain and the crowds, we weren’t seated until 5:00, which is when we typically eat.

The portions for the dinner package are HUGE, so this makes the meal a great value if you’re using the Dining Plan. It includes an appetizer, entree, and a HUGE shared dessert platter – a real bonus, as apps aren’t otherwise included on the DP.

The rain ultimately necessitated the cancelation of the earlier Fantasmic showing, and our server stressed that we could use our vouchers for another showing within the next 5 days. But the rain cleared around 8:30, so by the time the Frozen fireworks finished, the crowds had greatly thinned. I’ve NEVER seen Fantasmic this empty. Out of all the sections, only the center two “reserved” sections were about 2/3 filled, with only about 50 stragglers dotting the other sections. What a relief not to face the mass exodus after the show! We were able to use our vouchers two days later for the earlier showing.

One note: I would NOT schedule the Fantasmic Dinner Package on the same night as a the Frozen VIP package. Mama Melrose’s dinner package is a LOT of food. Again, it’s an appetizer PER PERSON, a large entree, and a lot of dessert. I was stuffed to the point of nausea by the time we left at 6:45 (the service was abysmally show…. we actually missed our reserved seating for the sing-a-long!) and the pre-fireworks Frozen Dessert Party began at 8:15. The desserts offered were so delicious that I wish I had more room left in my stomach!

Janie Giambalvo

Thank you for the notes about the fantasmic show. I booked it several days ago for our family of 12 going to disneyworld the beginning of Feb. The dinner package seemed like a good idea to have the whole family eat at least 1 dinner together ,and then be able to have good seats for the show. You are right about the early eating times. We have a 3:30 dinner but will use it as a late lunch /early dinner. The show is at 6pm. as Hollywood studios is only open till 7pm. at that time of year.

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